Hello, I'm Zeke and welcome to the Zekely podcast. Let's talk Pennsylvania. The guest I have today was born and raised in Cherry Hill, New Jersey, but has roots in Pennsylvania that go back over three generations. He's a husband, father, veteran and political organizer for the Democratic Party. Thank you so much for being here, Jack Inacker

For years, I’ve knocked thousands of doors all over Pennsylvania and poured my heart and soul into supporting candidates and causes that make a difference—from local school board races to national elections. The personal is political, and I take every election in Pennsylvania personally.

Where the mainstream media has failed you, I will give you truth and independence. You’ll hear from Democratic leaders, candidates, and change-makers who are working to improve the health of the Commonwealth, and it won’t be boring as hell.

No matter where you are, I’ll meet you with hope and a plan to make your community better one day at a time. Welcome to the Zekely Podcast. Let’s talk Pennsylvania.

Thank you. Thank you for having me on your show.

What I love about you is that you got into good trouble

and We're gonna learn all about that and all your plans that you have for Philadelphia Play some games and learn all about you. Are you ready? All right.

Yeah, I'm ready.

Well

you swear a lot and I really enjoy that so we're gonna I'm gonna give you some prompts Okay, and I just want I just want you to say the first spicy words that come to your mind. Okay? Elon Elon Musk

Sure. Okay, I'm ready. Motherfucker.

Yes.

what's funny is I called my lawyer originally, and I was like, Hey, can I say that he is a ketamine addicted nepo baby? And they're

Mm-hmm.

well, I don't know, we need to look at a different way. And I said, okay, what about ketamine snorting? And he's like, you're good to go. Yeah. I think that really, I think that kind of brings it all together. Look, I want, you know, ⁓ Elon Musk to get the help that he very clearly needs.

Uh-huh.

You're good to go. Wow. Just, just the snorting was fine.

Yeah.

I'm not shaming him for his addictive personality, but good Lord. I mean,

You you have somebody who has more money than God himself and spends it in the awful possible ways.

Yeah.

yeah, think that, you know, ketamine snorting, Nepo baby, I think kind of brings it all together.

Okay.

That's

just the first one I'm giving you, so you're off to a good start. Okay, here's another one. Congressman Scott Perry.

Perfect.

Motherfucker.

Okay.

think that, Scott Perry is MAGA to the core and just a fucking

Yeah.

Scott Perry is so firmly rooted up Trump's asshole that you can barely find, you need a sonogram to locate this guy. No, Scott Perry, motherfucker, but also

Yeah.

is so blatant in the fact of how much he

hates his own constituency, especially when it comes to these massive cuts to snap, to Medicaid, doing real damage for the people that voted for him. And he doesn't give a fuck, right? Because it just comes down to, did Donald Trump tell you that this is correct? Yes, great, then I'm going to vote for it. that's where he's at. So I think that motherfucker really kind of brings it all together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, I'm

really hoping Janelle Stelson can come through this time because he's got to go.

have three more for you, okay?

Great.

Stephen Miller.

you know, I'd say evil.

and it's funny because I curse a lot. You're right. but he is so craven, right? That I think that the biggest curse that I could give him is craven. just, just, yeah.

Yeah, unc- ⁓ Yeah,

Just a sick, sick motherfucker.

unc- Yeah, unclean.

you know, say what you will about Stephen Miller. The guy's a true believer.

⁓ He's incredibly effective at getting his xenophobic bullshit out into the world. It is astounding how good this guy is. But if you think about it for half a second, it actually kind of makes sense because, you know, he's, he is the, the modern Maga Trump realized, right? He is the full incarnation of what the Trump agenda is.

Yeah. ⁓

Yeah, yeah.

right, two more. Congressman Rob Brezhnehan.

rich motherfucker.

You

I, so what's funny about Rob,

he is so out of his fucking depth, man. Like I almost feel bad for him. but I don't,

you

I'm sure you know about like his stock trades, the fact that he's traded stocks over 600 times when he came into office and said,

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not going to trade stocks I'm not going to trade stocks. And then proceeded to do so for 600 fucking

Right. Yeah.

rich motherfucker, think kind of

Yeah, rich motherfucker. Okay, last but not least, can't leave him out, Donald Trump.

sums it up real good.

King of the motherfuckers, but you know, he's been that way his entire life. He's not putting on a show, right? Like in...

Yeah.

No, no, he's the real,

he's the real king motherfucker. Yeah.

he's selling hate. He's selling hate. And then people eat it up. He hates the same things that his followers hate, immigrants and minorities

And it's cool until you're the one getting pulled over.

on the side of the road and not able to get home. And it's cool until your loved one's getting taken off to some foreign country. And it's cool until your grandmother can't get her Medicaid anymore. You know, it's cool until something starts happening to you.

Right.

We're going to get out all the illegal immigrants, all the criminals, all the rapists, all the X, Y, and Z, even though none of it is fucking true. Right? He is lying in people's face consistently and has done so for many

Right, Yeah.

King of the motherfuckers.

Ysking of the motherfuckers, yes.

you are a third generation armed services member. First of all, thank you for your service. ⁓ And absolutely and have served honorably in the Air Force as a nuclear weapons control supervisor. So what inspired you to join and how did you end up in the nuclear department?

Thank you for thanking me.

I did.

I thought that the air force at the time could instill in me a very specific set of guidelines, right? And, and helped me reach my goals you know, I wanted to complete college. I wanted to do a couple of those

It was, it was the right thing for me at the time.

did I end up in, in nuclear weapons?

I, you I had a pristine background. I scored very high on the ASPAB, which is a test that you take. That's like, Hey, you're fill out these circles. You know, do you understand some mechanics? Do you understand some, can you, can you hack it? And I did very

Yeah, yeah.

what I didn't realize at the time was that meant that I needed to go to fucking Minot, North Dakota.

Okay.

I would highly advise you and your audience not to go to Minot, North Dakota. That is a fucking desolate place. That is a desolate

Okay.

place if you are

Well,

I would...

Yeah, I

mean, I'm sure it's good to be desolate when you're dealing with nuclear weapons. You know, want it to be kind of a desolate place, right?

right? In

Yeah,

And then 9-11 happened.

we

fully loaded B-52s loaded onto nuclear weapons.

onto the flight line in North Dakota

Yeah.

during 9-11. We didn't know where the next planes were coming from.

Yeah, that's crazy.

So it was a very insane moment in not only our nation's history, in my own personal

so I'm, I'm happy that it

I'm also proud of the service that I was able to do for people that are in since leaving.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Well, it makes sense that you gravitated towards the Democratic Party to get those things done for people in service.

Yeah, which is funny because if you ask people that are in, they wouldn't tell you that, right? People that are in, in the military are more likely to tell you, the Republicans are the party that are looking after the

And it's very clear over my career in organizing and advocacy that the Republicans are fucking lost on this, right?

Yeah, of course.

shit like the PACT Act

⁓ which delivered, you know, healthcare to those who have been exposed to toxins like burn pits and Agent Orange. That's all Democrats, baby. Like that is that the Democratic party is the people that put that over the line. it is Bob Casey, of Pennsylvania was one of the first people that was bringing attention to, toxins in military members. ⁓ so, and it was every time.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

that, you know, they talk about cuts to funding these programs. It's not Democrats that are cutting it. It's one fucking party. It's a Republican party.

You know, there's a common adage that you have to tell somebody 26 times one thing to get them to understand it.

Yeah.

And maybe we've messaged on this five times, six times, right? We're not doing enough to fully explain to people that, that yeah, the democratic party is the one that is actually looking out for military members.

Right. Yeah.

Well,

we're trying, you and I, we're trying to do it right now. Democratic Party is the party for the military. You heard it here. You heard it here, hopefully not once, twice, but at least 36 more times.

you went to college at Temple University and you earned a master's in public policy and graduated as valedictorian, which is amazing, which is amazing by the way. What are your future aspirations with this degree? There it is. That's a beautiful plaque. That's a beautiful plaque. I love

I did.

they they didn't plaque they give us very specific plaque

i what what is the future aspiration i mean i'm living the dream buddy i i i'm doing exactly what i wanted to do

I ran veterans and military families for Harris Walz in PA. I ran veterans for Casey before that. I ran veterans for Fetterman And so one of the things that frustrated me was the fact that we weren't able to do some very simple things that I wanted to do that I was excited about,

Mm-hmm.

Like

when it came to say something like Veterans for Casey or Veterans for Harris Walz I wanted to

go out and make sure that we were direct messaging to veterans in

So that is where FUBARPAC was born.

And I thank Temple for kind of giving me the very broad-based education in political organizing and communication in everything, in campaign finance and in economics, in business. And I tried to, during my graduate

Mm-hmm.

try to learn as much as I could about as many different things at a graduate level. Because I think that so many of those things touch the individual voter. You've got to know about civil rights, but you've got to also know about kitchen table issues.

So like for me, temple, was, you know, invaluable to that because I could, got to like read a lot and write a lot about, topics that before that I had a more, you know, generalized knowledge of, ⁓

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. It's set the table.

It's essentially set the table for your ability to go out into the world and really make an impact. Temple University gave you that ability.

Yeah.

you know, the nice thing about Temple, it's not only a good school, you know, it's great

And I'm excited to one day hopefully go back, I just want to go back and adjunct , a class. I want to go back and teach you know, shitposting 101. ⁓

Yeah!

Professor, Professor

Inacker Professor Inacker. Adjunct Professor Inacker.

Yeah. Well, adjunct Professor Inacker I don't want to go back.

You know, I am not going back and getting a

Understood.

Well, it sounds like you understand that education is important.

Okay. So we're going to play a game called what are the odds? All right. Does getting an education help or hurt you in America? All right. So first question, do college graduates have a higher or lower earning potential? Correct. College graduates generally earn

Sure.

higher.

over their lifetimes a lot more than only if you get a high school diploma.

Are college graduates more or less likely to be unemployed?

college graduates more or less likely to be unemployed. I'm going to go with less likely.

be unemployed. That

is correct. College graduates are less likely to be unemployed and more likely to have full-time jobs. right. I know, yeah, look, you know. Look, this is the messaging we're going to tell people 26 times, okay? When the Republican party is saying, you don't need to go to college.

It's like we're playing Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. It's like, are you gonna leave a message on my answering machine after this?

Great.

You know, you're going to be indoctrinated by the woke ideologies, but like, actually, look at all these reasons why it's so important to go to college.

Sure.

Okay, here's a couple more examples.

That's a great point.

Are college graduates more or less likely to engage with their communities? Correct. College graduates are more likely to participate in their communities, engage in volunteer work, and contribute to civic life. And you are a great example of that. we're going to talk.

more.

Why are you a Democrat? And why do you choose to represent the Democratic Party?

Great question.

Look, I think Democrats have it the most right. I think that Republicans have it the most

I think Republicans, you know, can't escape this idea of actually pushing back against Donald Trump. I think that MAGA is just the fucking worst and the worst of America out there on the grand stage. And Democrats have it the most

We have to have this idea that, yeah, we can actually still accomplish great things, which the Republicans will tell you and then not deliver on, right?

Correct. Yeah.

There are things to learn from all these people, but I think we get it the most right the most of the time.

I 100 % agree with you.

You are the executive director of FUBARPAC, which I can only imagine stands for fucked up beyond all recognition, which you started back in March of this year. What inspired you to start this PAC and what are its goals?

That's right.

reach both voters and party elites.

And my

thought process going into FUBARPAC was, hey, I want to talk about things through sometimes a very goofy lens, talk, like speak freely and speak my mind about how I see the country moving and not be afraid to call a Republican a motherfucker when he's acting like one,

So that's why I started

the other portion is, look, my dad died in January. It's

I'm sorry.

died of colon cancer.

But

⁓ one of the things that I saw, was the fact that, ⁓ cancer research had been gutted by Doge. and we saw at the time, all of these programs that were just being absolutely hack and slash through. ⁓ and I felt angry. I felt, like I wanted to see people fight back against this in a meaningful way. in a way that.

couldn't be ignored. And it wasn't just, you know, writing a letter. I wanted to see something tangible and visceral and maybe ugly. But through that, actually talk about something that needed to change and happen. like, I don't want to wax philosophical about my own bullshit, but like, I think that that FUBAR PAC

Yeah.

for me has been both an effort to message about things in Pennsylvania and the country that are important to me, but in a way that I kind of wanted to see them and in a way that hadn't been messaged that I personally wasn't seeing out there. And that could possibly capture the attention of folks who otherwise wouldn't have seen it. ⁓

Yeah, that

makes sense. That's kind of the reason why I started The Zekely Podcast You know, I worked my ass off last year to try and get more Democrats elected and it was devastating and I felt like I had to do something different. So I completely understand your emotions and your motivation to start FUBAR.

Yeah.

Yeah.

you know, a lot of

people our age are, you know, seeing a world that they don't recognize, right? This is not the future that we fucking promised, right? This is not the future that we even considered.

Right.

But I hope that

maybe if I'm going and playing the clown, right? While destroying a Tesla or painting the JD Vance, know, meme onto the side of the building.

Mm-hmm. ⁓

Mm-hmm.

that

maybe some Democrat actually has the courage to go out there and not be afraid to be embarrassed to advocate for Medicare for

can't just think that you're going out there and speaking from a bunch of fucking talking points that were written by consultants living in fucking Bethesda, Maryland. Right? They have to believe that you actually are going to go out and fight for.

Right. Well, I'm glad that you're doing, you know, your angle on supporting Democrats through your PAC and we're collaborating now. So we're in it together.

We're in it together, man. I'm

Here we go.

I'm excited for you man, this is good stuff.

earlier this year you organized the demolition of a Tesla with a golden sledgehammer and various electrical tools, so that must have been extremely therapeutic for you and everyone involved.

I did,

I'm trying to find my golden, where's my golden wrench? I had my golden wrench down here.

You had

a couple gold plated items?

I've got a bunch. We had a golden chainsaw. had a golden wrench. had a golden sledgehammer. We had a golden pickaxe. That was the most fun. The pickaxe genuinely was the most enjoyable out of all of them. The sledgehammer was good, but the pickaxe really like jams in there in a really satisfying way.

Yeah.

it was cathartic.

You know, Doge did so much long lasting damage to this country. I, it's funny because I, I had a great time destroying that Tesla. And I know the people that were there did, and we had some press come out and talk about it and talked about the issues. And we were able to bring attention to this, but the really profound sad fact is

you know, the ending of USAID is going to have a profound effect on global deaths because of HIV AIDS, right? Millions of people are going to die because of this.

Yes.

Hundreds of thousands of children are going to die because we basically eviscerated all of our soft power overseas and took away

you know, antivirals that were literally in the fucking country, right? And costing us pennies on the dollar to produce and get there. And we just ripped it out of these people's hands and millions of people are gonna die,

yeah, it's tremendously sad. It is awful. And so, yeah, my very small, like very silly thing that we did with bashing up Tesla is, you know,

went through a lot of process to make sure that, hey, is this thing going to blow up? Like, can we make sure that we're recycling, that we're upcycling all the stuff, that we're doing all the things that we need to do, you know, X, Y, and Z, that we're crossing all the Ts and dotting all the Is, but at the end of the day, like, the thing that we're protesting is so fucking horrid that there's barely a way to express to people

Yeah.

Yeah.

how bad it really is. And we're learning right now how bad it is and we'll be learning for an entire generation how bad it is. Like, yeah, maybe I absolved my little bit of guilt about it, you know, by participating in this very small, like pin-dot protest, but the outcome is horrific. Horrific.

Yeah.

Yeah.

in

a way that I don't know that anyone is really grasped with. It is the worst thing that we have done as a country in a generation.

terrible and I appreciate you bringing light to that through the activity that you did but hopefully that messaging spreads and that's the most important thing people need to know

You founded the Philadelphia Democratic Veterans Caucus. What type of work does your caucus participate in?

the Veterans Caucus is the same work that we're doing with veterans and military families for Harris

we came up with, and this is the model that I came up with, was look, we're never gonna have enough veterans to go knock on doors to make a meaningful impact. But what we can do is tell the stories about

people are being affected by certain policies through a veteran lens, right? So we can talk about veterans suicide, or we can talk about mental health issues nationwide through the lens of veteran suicide, you know? And every issue is a veteran's issue, but usually worse, right? ⁓ So my work really was going out and meeting veterans

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah.

that cared about the same issues that we did that wanted to see a fundamental change in how we did business vis-a-vis the PACT ACT vis-a-vis Veterans Benefits, making sure that the VA was fully funded, making sure that people had their

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

that people that were LGBT were treated fairly, which now they fucking aren't at all. ⁓ We're being able to have an outlet where if we have a topic that we can talk about,

great.

that we can put out op-ends, that we can put out direct-to-camera interviews, that we can make sure that we're linking up those people with the people who want to tell their stories in a very easy and streamlined way. And that was the mission of, and still is the mission of the Philadelphia Veterans Caucus.

I that's what I see my role as is going and just creating those networks, you know, and create a welcoming space for people to come in and, and say, Hey, I'm a democratic veteran. And here's what I care about. And here's what I give a shit about. But I think that like, in a perfect world, I wouldn't

have anything to do with the caucus because people would be unafraid to go out and talk about how the current administration is completely fucking up with veterans. ⁓ But a lot of people are scared. A lot of people are terrified that if they go out and talk about what's going on in their communities,

Yeah.

going to have retribution.

Yeah.

⁓

from this administration, had seen it happen already. ⁓ we've seen this administration weaponize, ⁓ these, you know, like ice Gestapo motherfuckers out there.

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

know, they're arresting, ⁓ random people off the street, ⁓ with no rhyme or reason.

And I think that there's a lot of frustration and will be even more so once, you know, VA staff starts getting cut and we see some of the longer term effects

of the big shitty

As that trail gets longer, you're going to see people being like, hey, what happened to X, Y, and Z? well, it's gone because it was shredded by Donald Trump.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, I appreciate you giving a platform for those people so they can speak

you live in Fishtown currently with your family. It's a very cool area.

I do.

your favorite part of living in Fishtown?

So we've got great restaurants, we got great bars, we've got great parks. ⁓ That's another great thing. It's a great place to have kids.

Mm-hmm.

And they really like their school. So it's a great community. I love living in a walkable area. Fishtown is great. Great.

That's great.

Mm-hmm.

A long time ago when I was in college, went to Fishtown. I don't think it's open anymore. Pizzeria Badia was this like, is it still open? Oh my God. mean, like the thing was you came and you ordered, they only did 200 pizzas a night. And you you got in line and they said, back in an hour. went to Barcade. And then we came back and we ate like a $40 pizza. And it was an experience.

Yeah, it's open. Yeah, they moved. They moved.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, so it is objectively one of the best things I've ever eaten. Right. It is very good. It is also extremely expensive. And I'm look, Hey, you do your thing. You're going to do a hoagie omakase. That's great. Awesome.

It's very good. It's very good. Yeah.

huh, yeah.

like you're trying something

pound for pound though, the best pizza in fish town is a place called OG pizza. ⁓ it is incredibly good. it tastes like pizza. It tastes like what your brain registers in the back of your head is like, that's what pizza is. It's pizza. It's foldable, like a nice foldable, like got a good crust like crust. Like it's not like.

Okay. OG pizza.

Yeah, yeah,

huh.

You know how modern pizza like kind of just throws like slabs of mozzarella on the top of it? Like, yeah, sometimes, but like that's what fancy pizza is. This isn't fancy pizza. is fucking pizza. It is pizza. OG pizza.

Yeah, sometimes, yeah.

Okay, OG pizza.

Alright, I'll check it out when I get to Fishtown one of these days.

Usual yes

It's great. Bueschel is beautiful. I got to live three years in the German countryside. So, spreche ein bisschen Deutsch, ich verstehe großes Deutsche. So I speak a little bit of German. I understand a

great.

was weird about the interaction was every single person in Germany that I met spoke perfect

If they didn't speak English, they were lying to you. They just didn't want to talk to you.

Yeah.

Well, this

is going to dovetail nicely into our next game called Say What in German. Okay, I'm going to give you some German words. I'm going to see if you can tell me what it means in English, ⁓ Flugs... And I'm sure my pronunciation is not going to be very good, but we're going to run with that, okay? Flugsug.

Okay.

good lord. I'm very rusty.

Okay.

looks good. Is that no it's not ambulance is that airplane. there we go okay ding ding ding.

Flugzeug!

It's airplane. Very good. You got it. How

about crack crank and wagon crack? That's the ambulance. Yep, ambulance. Yep. Okay. I want to try and pronounce this cool shrank. Cool, cool shrank.

That's your ambulance. Cranking wagon, 100 % ambulance. Yep.

What?

Cool Shrink?

Cool Shrink. I think I'm pronouncing it like K with the U with the two dots over it. H-L-S-C-H-R-A-N-K. Cool Shrink. Yeah.

Cool shrank.

I don't know. What is it?

Refrigerator.

Coolschrank! ⁓ yeah, okay. That's... What a dumb fucking word. I love

refrigerator.

Hahaha ⁓

German language because there will be like a 20 syllable long word that means a very specific thing.

Yeah.

Words that would not otherwise exist outside of things. But I will teach you a little bit of German.

you'd like, which is which is the Gates dia, the Gates dia.

Wie geht's dir?

And that is the very specific way that Joey on Friends says, How you doing?

Aha.

How are you?

So if you

ever want to be like, you ever want to chat somebody up in German, be like, begates dir. Begates dir.

⁓ yeah, Vigetsia, how you doing? that's

i have two more for you

Stalbsalga Stalbsalga

street sign?

vacuum cleaner? vacuum cleaner? okay I don't know here's the last one

vacuum cleaner. No, okay.

You're gonna have to cut

that one out.

Netherlands.

smething.

I don't know, what is it?

Butterfly.

you go. it's a beautiful thing. know the German, you got three out of five, you did a great job. Did a great job.

Beautiful. Beautiful. Hey, I got three out of five. I got three out of five. That's passing.

As a housing and community resource development manager, you work to promote a housing first model to assist those struggling with substance abuse disorders. So I really like that initiative. How did that all come together?

If you cut your hand, what are you gonna do? What's the first thing you're gonna do?

⁓

I'll wrap it up and if it's large enough to need stitches I'll probably go to the emergency room and get stitches. ⁓

Right. So

when you wrap up your hand, you're going to go to your sink, right? And you're going to run clean water over the wound, right? You probably have a medicine cabinet that has some level of antiseptic or something like that in there, you know? ⁓ You have clean

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

pain medication to help you with that.

Mm-hmm.

⁓

If it's that bad and you have some level of emergency services that you can call on if it's really really bad, right? If you're on housed And you cut your hand You usually don't have instant access to clean water to clean it with you don't have ⁓ Clean bandages to bandage it up with you don't have X Y & Z and probably that that wound that was a

10 cent bandage fix, right, turns into a $50,000 infection, right? So what we did was we looked at, let's put people in housing to make sure that we could deliver services to them and make sure that they had a base of operations to grow from.

Yeah. Yeah.

And we found that it is not only the moral thing to do, right? It is not only the correct thing to do, but also it is the cheaper thing to do. The way that we currently deliver healthcare outside of that model is extremely

Yeah.

Right. Yeah.

costs so much more money in the long run.

Mm-hmm.

Instead

of the 10 cent bandage, right? It's the $30,000 bill instead of the $30 bottle of insulin, right? It's an amputation of a leg, right? We have found and the number one thing that we can do is make sure that people have a steady base of operation so that people can get that care that we need and everything else expands out of that and we found it's a

Right, yeah.

very effective and cheaper and moral. ⁓

I love it. mean, as a doctor,

I couldn't agree with you more.

Housing is a form of preventative medicine. Having someone be able to shower every day, be able to keep food safe in a refrigerator and heat it back up again. Those are all things that are preventative care when it comes to someone's health. So I think it's a great initiative. I 100 % agree with you.

Yeah. And, you know, making sure that we're like, you know, studying those things through a healthcare lens, ⁓ instead of, you know, banning studying them, which we have for like gun violence that we're not allowed to even study gun violence as a, as a healthcare risk. ⁓ You have people that, and I think that this is going back to our talk about like, do people have it?

Thank

Yeah.

Right. Right.

Right. Correct.

which party has it the most right. know, the Republicans look through it as a lens of like the undeserving poor, right? If they only worked harder, right? If they only did X, Y, and Z, then their conditions would change, right?

Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

Yeah.

we give them the tools to change their condition, then they won't have learned anything.

They won't have better themselves, right? When in fact, what we actually know is that if you give people the resources to better themselves, they better themselves, right?

Yeah, right. Yeah. I mean, they have

done studies. I mean, there have been not a lot of studies, but they have done studies on homelessness. And I think even in California, they did a small study where they gave $1,000, I think, out to a number of people. And most of those people got themselves off the streets. And they were able to get themselves housing and get themselves jobs because being poor is expensive. You know, it's expensive. ⁓ So we

Well...

Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, it's out there. It's just that like you both agree, the Democratic Party is more likely to invest in those types of programs to help people as opposed to, they're gonna be the ones to

They absolutely are. And the child

tax credit was one of the greatest victories for like solving child poverty, right? And what did we find when we gave people money through the child tax credit? We found that they spend it on like repairing their car so they can get around and get to appointments. They spent it on making sure that kids had like books and clothes for school, that they spend it on like, you know,

Right. Right.

food and everyday, you know, issues. We found that that shit worked and it lifted millions of kids out of poverty. And now it's gone.

Yeah, it does work. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, I'm at least glad that you did your part to try and give people homes. And it's very honorable. And I'm grateful as a physician that you gave them an opportunity to better take care of themselves.

What gives you hope?

what gives me hope is that

I think that people are understanding that the status quo is not acceptable and that we've got to make multiple changes on multiple different levels. And through that process, which is sometimes ugly, right? You're seeing a better result come out the other side.

Right.

Yeah,

right.

what plans do you have to get yourself through these next few years?

I start fights on reddit. That's that's usually like a good I Love yelling at people on reddit. ⁓ reddit is the best for for getting into internet arguments ⁓ What no no no, I don't want to talk to your aunt Janice. I'm not interested I want to I want to talk to like, you know shit lord

Okay.

Not Facebook? You don't get to Facebook, not Facebook? No.

Okay.

is

you know, really?

Really in the thick of it.

I'm sure.

Like what, what, what keeps me sane for the next couple of years will just be doing weird and interesting shit. ⁓ and

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

trying stuff out, right? Like, so one of the things that we did last year on the Harris campaign that was really cool was I threw this tailgate right before the election down at the Eagles

Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

with the object of like, there's 80,000 people in the crowd here. Can we?

connect where we you're never going to find a place in a battleground state that is 80,000 people all gathered in the same place. Right. We could go and talk to these people. How cool would that be? So we did. And we had a great time and we had Robert De Niro come by and we had John Kerry and we had our Congress people. Shout out to Mad Dean and Mary Gay Scanlon for coming through. Great. They both had ⁓

know, pound some beers with me. was a wonderful time. But look, we can try different things and let's not be afraid of trying some different stuff. And if it fails, that's okay.

Right.

So we've got to have people that are.

excited to try new things, we got to have candidates that actually want to try them. So, ⁓ and that comes down to Dems in really safe seats, doing cool stuff, right? and being the, the, the safest Dems should be leading the charge because they are in the safest areas

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, don't want to see those people, you know,

being afraid to lose their job. Go try some new shit. Go break a Tesla. I don't know. I'm not your dad.

Well, hopefully, yeah,

with you, hopefully that's what you're gonna, they're gonna be doing it with you and a FUBAR PAC Well, Jack Inacker, Philadelphian, when not screaming into the void is helping Democrats get elected and giving shit to shitty Republicans. I mean, what else can we say?

Yeah.

I applaud you in the work that you're doing. Like, keep it weird, man.

I just gotta keep the positive messaging out there because there are a lot of people, you included, that wake up every day as a committee person, as someone who loves their family, their country, and they wanna see it move in a more positive direction. And when we have enough people like you do that, then we're gonna see positive change. So I'm very grateful for what you're doing.

Well, I'll make

you a deal. You keep up the positive messaging and I will keep up the negative messaging and we'll balance either other out. I will...

Negative message,

I'll take it as long as the negative messaging is aimed right at the Republican Party,

Hey,

yeah, absolutely. I like a 95 % of the time, 95 towards the Republicans and then 5 % some Dems are catching strays when they're fucking up. But I think that's, I think that's, that's, that's a good, good ratio. Maybe 80-20. I don't know.

Yeah.

That's fine. That's fine.

a good balance.

I'm gonna stay in my mind's eye it's gonna be 95 % okay.

I love it. Thanks again Jack.

% that's a good number. It's a solid number. All right, brother

Hold on one second alright.

Hey, thanks for having me on the show

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